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Cut How Many?

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At Sāvatthī. ^[1]

Standing to one side, that deity spoke this verse in the Buddha’s presence:

“Cut how many? Drop how many?

Develop how many more?

When a mendicant slips how many chains

are they said to have crossed the flood?”

“Five to cut, five to drop, ^[2]

and five more to develop.

When a mendicant slips five chains ^[3]

they’re said to have crossed the flood.”

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[1] The redactors show their playful side here, placing this “riddle of fives” as the fifth sutta of the Saṁyutta.

The enigmatic repetition of “five” is reminiscent of Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad 4.4.17: “Where the five groups of five and space are established, I regard that Self as the immortal Brahman, knowing which I am immortal.” Or perhaps it is a reference to the five great sacrifices, to sages, gods, ghosts, men and ancestors (Manu 4.21).

[2] According to the commentary, the five lower fetters are cut, the five higher fetters are dropped, and the five faculties are developed.

[3] The “five chains” are not defined in the Suttas, but Vb 17:238.1 identifies them as greed, hate, delusion, conceit, and views.